Viet-Justice

Tom DeLay, former Republican Majority Leader, has really outdone himself this time. He seems to believe there is a direct correlation between abortion and illegal immigration.

“I contend [abortion] affects you in immigration,” DeLay told the Washington-area gathering. “If we had those 40 million children that were killed over the last 30 years, we wouldn’t need the illegal immigrants to fill the jobs that they are doing today. Think about it.”

Let’s think about it. Rounding up the last 12 month’s worth of data there are 7M people unemployed (4.5%). A quick Google search puts the number of unlawful, undocumented border crossers at 12-15M. Those are the hard numbers. Does abortion relate to illegal immigration? I don’t think so. Assuming that the lazy 4.5% of the population would relocate to where the jobs are, we would have 5-8M unfilled jobs in this country. If you fill those 8M jobs with 40M people, I would dare say that you would have a much higher unemployment rate. To be mathematically fair, there wouldn’t be 32M unemployed people, but I doubt we would have the low unemployment and the high wages we have today. Sorry Mr. DeLay, but I don’t understand your math here.

The solution to those 5-8M unfilled jobs is legal immigration. No, I’m not talking about Mexico. I’m talking about China, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, India, and Europe. Business week has the perfect solution to the immigration problem. First stop limiting the green cards. It should be like it was in the 1920′s. If you want to come here to work then you’re welcome. Next we set the criteria to let in the smartest and the wealthiest individuals. We need more scientific minds at work in this country. Wealthy individuals start new businesses and can hire more Americans than someone who is poor starting a business. According to the Business Week article, many people waiting for green cards are leaving in frustration because it takes too damn long to get through the system. In today’s world your opportunity to start a company and make money is limited to 3-5 years. This is due to the fact that technology moves so fast that your idea will be obsolete in a short time and because there is no manufacturing cost to technology it is probable someone else will come up with the same idea and beat you to market. If we were to import a good mix of 5M scientists and entrepreneurs that would make the economy really take off since we would be on the road to world economic domination. Then people might not mind paying extra for produce since there would be more money in their pockets.

In response to Good’s points on Why Racial Acceptance Does Not Matter it is time to take a look at why it is perceived that Asians do not have positive roles or have reduced roles in entertainment. Why do Asians have no prominent roles in entertainment? I believe it is because Asians are very practical people. Parents are very influential and sometimes controlling in the upbringing of their children. Practical occupations such as Medical, Law, or Business are what parents equate with wealth and success. The two former may put you in an above average income bracket, but the latter have a shorter education time and put you in the workforce long before law or med students. While you may make less, there are more opportunities. It’s a simple trade off in terms of what you get. Actors, musicians, athletes, and other entertainers are commonly seen as the “starving artist”. Success is difficult to find, but when you do find success it can be abundant. Unfortunately with entertainment the major leagues are fairly exclusive. I doubt many first generation Asian parents encourage art & entertainment as a career path. By not exploring the arts when very young and being coached in math and science until college, Asians tend not to pursue the arts. Based on pure statistics I believe there are fewer Asians and Latinos than Blacks or Whites who go into acting or athletics. This is one reason that there are not enough positive Asian roles seen on television or in the movies. Until more Asians decide to drop out of Law or Medical School, or pursue liberal arts this is something that is not going to change. There’s no real nice way to say it. For those who aren’t happy about this fact, it’s time to learn to accept it. It’s purely a numbers game.

Now that we’ve established that you will see fewer Asians in the arts we can move on to how they are represented. The most common thing I have heard is the neutering of the male Asian and the over sexualization of female Asians. I don’t know if you can really say Asian women are sexualized more than other women. Kelly Hu and The Rock were both provocative in The Scorpion King. Hu’s role in the film was not submissive and as a powerful sorceress I wouldn’t say there was a negative portrayal of her. I would actually say that the power behind the supernatural nature of her character would actually make her dominant over the other male counterparts in the movie. Strong female characters are never negative.

Sex sells is what you hear the marketing droids say. I don’t think that Asian women are being exploited by marketing or media outlets, at least any different than other races. You also have to note that there are muscle bound men who are represented in a similar manner of all races. While you don’t see that many men who look like The Rock we cannot deny that they exist.

The male role I hear bantered around the most by Asians is Jet Li in Romeo Must Die. While it is an urban remake of Romeo and Juliet there is no romance. How did that happen? Well, the movie was given some prescreening time and the people interviewed just didn’t like romantic subplot. Ok, I have no problem with that. If you can squeeze any additional money out of your project by tailoring it to the target audience go ahead, even if it does make the story ridiculous. All you Asians out there complaining about Jet Li being neutered in this film really need to stop and ask yourselves if you would risk losing your job by disregarding the data gathered by movie prescreening. I’m not going to debate the taste of the screeners. Obviously for whatever reasons they decided they didn’t like the romantic story.

Is that really a problem? Quite frankly I’m glad there is less romance in film and that Asians are leading the way. Way to go Jet Li! This may sound crazy, but if you look at the creation of movies dating back to the silent film era you will understand. You have a villain, a hero, and a damsel in distress. It recycles classic literary story, where the hero always gets the girl. When Hollywood first started ramping up movies had to be cookie cutter to appeal to all demographics. You had to have the romance scene to attract female moviegoers. This was many years before the advent of the “chick flick” and practically every American movie ever made follows this formula. So, why do I think it’s great that Asians are not getting any of the action? It’s a deviation from the classic Hollywood formula. If I want to see something mushy I will go see a “chick flick”. If there is a male hero role then he needs to be a superhero. You don’t have to be Fabio (15 years ago) to save the world. In real life you don’t always get the girl at the end of the show, and I would really appreciate it if Hollywood tried to parallel real life more. This is also a message to the ladies, not every guy is going to be a superhero that will sweep you off your feet or protect you from adversity.

Another negative male inequality that is mentioned often is from the 1960′s Star Trek. The white Captain Kirk played by William Shatner is always picking up women on every planet while the Asian Lt. Sulu played by George Takei is neutered and has no romantic relationships. There are several easy things to see here. Captain Kirk is the hero so he’s always going to get the women. It’s 1966 so that isn’t too hard to figure out. None of the supporting cast get much action compared to the Captain. Let’s take a look at Sulu for a moment. He’s the Helmsman of the ship and he’s a Lieutenant. If you are familiar with the mythology of Star Trek, people who go into Helm rise in rank faster than any other occupation on a starship. If you want to be a Captain you go into Helm. Obviously since Sulu is a Helmsman he’s more concerned with rising in rank than a Navigator, Engineer, or Science Officer. I would equate this with the young junior associate at a law firm who is aggressively trying to make partner or someone in business who wants to be CxO at a company. People who want to climb the mountain tend to put all other concerns off until they reach the top. Only then do they devote time to dating, marriage, or raising a family. In some cases they have lived without for so long settling down doesn’t matter. In later movies George Takei’s character commands his own ship and has a daughter. The portrayal of Sulu is not only a positive Asian character, but realistic one as well.

In summary I do not think Asians are improperly represented when they appear in entertainment. The fact that Asians choose not to enter entertainment careers is not a problem, just a mere cultural upbringing issue. My career advice for Asians, and anyone else for that matter, is to find a practical day job first. Base your education on business or something practical and minor in something artistic if you choose. Go for two degrees at the same time if you’re ambitious. Based on watching some of my white friends I see this approach has worked out. An acquaintance has a degree in HR and some type of degree from a fashion design school. She works a corporate HR job during the day and designs clothes for fashion shows during the evening. She isn’t married and is quite self sufficient. She hasn’t hit it big, but it’s a hobby that eventually has turned into something that now makes some money. The best part is that it’s fun.

Contrast her situation with another friend who only pursued an education in theatre and has only managed to get bit parts and lives the life of a starving artist. This is a risk/reward tradeoff. Had my successful acquaintance not studied HR, she might be working minimum wage jobs as well. Another point is that if you have a corporate job that gives you more money to spend towards your passion. Designing clothes and sponsoring fashion shows costs money and you can do more in less time if you have money. Just remember that like Lt. Sulu, you may have to give up dating or other activities to reach your goals.

In my experience most Asian parents want their children to be successful and not want for money. This usually means sheltering the children from careers where they put all their eggs in one basket. I have no issue with pursuing the arts, I think it makes sense to go into business or law, work hard, and pursue your dreams in the evening and on weekends. If you make a good go at it, then retire early. Retiring early is something I think we can all agree on as being a good thing.

This is going to sound very odd and perhaps offensive to some of the more liberal Asian readers, but after reading Suzy’s comments I thought it was time to post on this topic.

Maybe you never experienced racism or maybe you’re just ignorant of the fact that it exist but however u grew up, u were just lucky. Maybe all the white people in your neighborhood put on a good facade for you and u never had to see their true racist face.

Why does racial acceptance not matter? I have called Georgia home since the end of the Vietnam War, though I had temporary residences in other states. Southerners are a very independent group of people. The elderly talk of a time when your nearest neighbor was 5 miles away and the only way to get there was on horseback or by walking. As a result of being geographically isolated most southerners keep to themselves. It’s part of local culture that exists today. People tend to mind their own business, dislike government intrusion, home owners association covenants, and zoning. I’m sure that independence goes back to a time when you could only depend on yourself and your immediate family.

Some of my relatives live in California, a very liberal state. They tend to have liberal attitudes on many things which I do not completely understand. One recent conversation questioned why I wanted to put in for a temporary transfer to the office in Paris or London. International travel has always fascinated me, and if you work for a large enough company they way to move up quickly is to transfer from office to office as higher ranking positions open up. My relatives wanted to know why I wanted to live in a third world country like France or the UK when the single state of California has the economic power of the all the states of Germany. Why live in a place where you would not be accepted by the local people? I found that last question odd, since I have friends and friends of friends in many European countries. My relative said that because I’m not white and I’m not a native Frenchman or Englishman I would never be accepted. My friends over there accept me and any co-workers would be subordinate to me since I would be representing the home office. Then I was told that the whole society wouldn’t accept me. What would that matter? My relative said that is the goal to fit in, then blend in, and be accepted by everyone. No reason why, but apparently that’s how Californians think. I’ve run into that same attitude many times in my travels there. Strangely enough, southerners don’t share the same need to be accepted by everyone.

Why be accepted by society at large? Do punk rockers want to be accepted? No. Do straight edger’s want to be accepted? No. There are many counter cultures out there that exist happily without the acceptance or approval of the whole. These groups have their own happy social circles and can interact with the rest of society in most cases. This is why I believe racial acceptance does not matter.

If we step back and take a look at our daily interactions with people we can break it down into three general categories, co-workers, friends/family, and personal business.

Your co-workers are people that you see, or at least deal with, every day. These are people that you know and who know you. Everyone at a company has goals set by their management which the workers attempt to accomplish. Your co-workers and management are more than likely interested in how well you do your job. Respect is earned by displaying your competency, proactively taking on new tasks, and being the proverbial team player. Since we do not live in a caste system, it can be assumed that if your co-workers or your supervisors have a problem with you, then you will move on and find a place that you are more of a cultural fit. If you prefer jeans and t-shirts, a silicon valley start up or a small company is more likely your speed than a Big 4 accounting firm. In business race is something that doesn’t matter today. Profit is the motivation of any corporation and your ability to make money for the corporation is how you will be judged. With today’s technology it is possible for you to work anywhere and potentially never meet many of your co-workers. I have supervised employees in other countries. I have hired people I have never met in person. Since I don’t know what they look like I certainly can’t draw any conclusions based on how they dress, what color their eyes are, how tall they are, or what color their skin is. When dealing with remote workers you have to draw performance metrics from statistical data, such as number of customer calls handled per hour, or number of lines of code a programmer writes. As for those out there who can’t work in such jobs such as theatre and artsy types? Maybe it’s time to choose different professions until you’re wealthy, then retire and chase your dreams. My mother taught me that in Vietnam having money is essential since “tipping” is essential to getting anything done. You have to choose an occupation that provides high income so you can afford to pay the right people to have your way. If you want your car fixed quickly, you need to “tip” your mechanic to move you to the front of the line. If you want your Sheriff to deal with a crime problem, you need to have the money to “contribute to his reelection campaign fund” so he pays attention to your issues. Work relationships seem to be easy to comprehend and win at in my view.

The next category of personal relationships is your friends and family. Family is self explanatory, so I’m not going to spend much time on why they automatically accept you. Friends are people that you have met in various stages of your life. Obviously they accept you for who you are or what you can do for them otherwise they wouldn’t hang out with you. The latter could be professionals who are part of a social network that refer each other to good jobs or educational opportunities. You’re not necessarily interested in anything but a professional relationship, but this differs from the co-worker/supervisor/subordinate relationship mentioned above. Friends are very cliquey and tend not to relate to others outside their clique. For example, when you and your friends are hanging out at a bar/nightclub you are not actively seeking to interact with anyone other than your friends. This is why not only racial acceptance does not matter, but acceptance period does not matter. You are with your friends and you’re having fun. If you’re trying to hook up with someone, sure I can agree that acceptance is important there, but that is seeking relations outside the three major types that I have outlined. On the other hand if you’re just having fun with your friends and someone else wants to approach you, then you might have a new friend to add to your clique. I have enough friends, so I’m not going to be just walking up to strangers striking up conversation. Therefore, when in a public forum with friends racial acceptance does not matter.

The last major category of people is those you do personal business with. These are people you meet in your daily life, but you don’t really know or want to know. The person at Starbuck’s is a good example. You are paying them for a service and if they do a good job you might tip them, provided they don’t spit in your food. I’m not interested in talking to them beyond the “Hello, how are you today?” exchange of pleasantries. Do they honestly care how your day is going? Do you honestly care about their day? If you answered yes to either of these I believe you are delusional. Think about how intimate the word “care” is when compared to how your friends and family “care” about you. If they don’t know your name, then they obviously aren’t involved enough in your life to care. Just make my frackin’ latte and don’t talk to me. Do I care if you’re Korean, Chinese, Indian, or Pakistani? No, I don’t. Light starch on the shirts, and don’t damage the delicate fabrics, thank you Mr. Dry Cleaner. Do I care if you’re an old white guy or a young black guy? No, Mr. Senator, here is your campaign check now deal with my political issues. This category of people does not care about you. They want to deal with you and they want you to go away. You pay their wages and would they really want to get to know you? I doubt it. People you do personal business with are more than likely those that take up a large amount of your time outside the office. To gain their acceptance is highly irrelevant. Think about how important the cashier at K-Mart or your barista at Starbuck’s is? Do you hang out with them? Would you invite them over for dinner or a BBQ?

This whole notion of racial acceptance is greatly exaggerated in importance. If you step back and think about how different people influence your day-to-day activities you will find the people that matter will accept you for who you are. I am not concerned if the Klansman or the Skinhead fixing my truck likes me or not. They’re going to like me because I’m contributing to their paycheck. If they do shoddy work because I’m Asian, then I’ll go somewhere else and give them my money. I can respect business owners and workers for doing their job. I don’t need to respect them for anything else if my relationship with them is business only. I can actually have respect for a Skinhead who will work on anyone’s vehicle and do a good job because he has pride in what he does. I respect him as a mechanic, not a person. He is not a person. He’s a guy that works on my truck. We are defined by our occupations and the execution of that occupation. With work taking up 10-12 hours of every American’s day, is there anything other than our occupation that defines us? If 40%-50% of your day is your work, do you have an identity beyond your job since only 4 hours a day belong to you for individual expression? Is a 4 hour bigot different than a 16 hour bigot?

I believe that if you consider how unimportant the rest of the world that you do not know personally is, you will see that acceptance of any type beyond your work group and your social group is meaningless.

Just a little reminder for all you folks out there that think whites and blacks are mistreating Asians by using racist humor among other things. Asians can be racist too, so stop being the proverbial pot calling the kettle black when you are outraged at white people such as JV & Elvis, Rosie O’ Donnell, Imus, or black Gangsta Rappaz such as Ice Cube, ICE-T, and others.

I think this video shows that discrimination based on race or nationality is a culturally accepted aspect of at least one Asian country. Is this a dirty little secret we would prefer for whites, blacks, and latinos not to know? It’s a little difficult to expect others to be nice when we are guilty of basically the same thing. Keep that in mind before you start whining.

While we have kicked the JV & Elvis issue around quite a bit. Albert and I can agree that this is an artistic issue where taste in the literary form of Sarcasm is at issue. Some groups think it is funny while OCA and others find it offensive. I will now argue that the PC slippery slope does put the Constitution in danger. By being overly sensitive and getting our feelings hurt the terms discriminatory and stereotypical have been thrown around. To everyone’s credit nobody that I know of has foolishly used the term “hate speech”.

Now how does expressing your outrage over comedians and shock jocks endanger our freedom of speech? Aside from the slippery slope we have to worry about hate speech legislation. Not the stuff in the US, but the crazy legislation being drafted in the EU.

The proposed regulations would require E.U. governments to impose criminal sanctions against people or groups “publicly inciting violence or hatred . . . directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, color, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin.” Under the recommendations, conviction on those charges would carry jail terms of up to one year.

There is already criticism that such legislation could rewrite history because some groups may find either their own history or someone else’s offensive. Iran is denying the holocaust occurred. Now if enough people bitch that they find the holocaust offensive or if enough Jews decide they don’t want to remember then all historical record could be erased. The first step in letting history repeat itself is forgetting what has happened.

Tying this new proposed legislation into satire and sarcasm, the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten printed pictures of the Prophet Mohammad which touched off a fire storm of riots and threats by Muslim terrorists. The Muslims claimed that publishing the pictures of Mohammad by non-believers was an insult which of course gave them free license to riot and call for the execution of the editorial writers. As a show of solidarity many US publications and bloggers republished the pictures saying that freedom of speech trumps others being offended. At Viet-Justice we went farther to create our own blasphemy by tossing ridicule at the people rioting in the streets of Europe. I guarantee most Muslims would find it offensive, but this is artistic expression, and protected by the Constitution.

Great, Quan, we know Europe is messed up, but how does that affect us? This affects us through the implementation of Treaties. Treaties are agreements with other countries that do override our constitution. One example was a UN sponsored treaty to ban the ownership of guns by private citizens worldwide. If the US signed on with this treaty it would nullify our 2^nd Amendment. The 1^st Amendment can be just as easily nullified.

Normally a constitutional amendment is an involved process requiring lots of voting. To ratify a treaty it requires the President, and two-thirds of the Senate, totally bypassing the normal checks and balances put into place. Rumor has it President Bush recently bypassed the Senate in an attempt to setup a North American Union merging the US, Canada, and Mexico as seen in this CNN Video. Treaties can happen without our knowledge and we should be vigilant.

There are a lot of well meaning people out there that believe we as a country do not participate in world affairs to a great extent. One example is the International Criminal Court. Yes it makes sense to go after war criminals, but President Bush along with India’s leader have opposed the ICC since any citizen could be extradited and placed on trial for violating the laws of another country. Stop and think about that for a moment.

Think of the Internet and the telephone today. They break down barriers to communication. In addition they expose us to new things that go beyond what we would see in our local community. Obscenity and pornography easily come to mind here because the Internet does away with “community values” in favor of the least restrictive in the world. But what if you said something that was illegal in another country on the Internet? Today you are protected by the Constitution, unless you travel to that country. China is already trying to find out which of their expatriates are badmouthing the government and such people tend to be held in prison for a long time when they go back to china. The same goes for Iran.

What if tomorrow the US ratifies a treaty with the EU accepting their “hate crime” legislation and if the US is a member of the ICC, you could be snatched out of your home and sent to Europe to stand trial for saying something offensive. The US Government would have to send you away because of the treaty and you would be subject to the laws of that other country. Is that the world we really want to live in? Well that is the slippery slope we are riding on if go overboard with being offended by satire or sarcasm.  In Europe, Muslims are complaining that Winnie the Pooh and Piglet are offensive.  In England “The Three Little Pigs” was rewritten to “The Three Little Puppies” because Muslims don’t like Pigs.  Do you really want to live in that kind of world?  Globalization and carelessly accepting what is offensive and hateful will put us there.

You can be offended, that is your right and nobody is telling you that you can’t be offended or that you should keep your mouth shut. Just realize that crying “hate speech” puts all speech in danger since you never know if what you have to say is hateful somewhere else. All speech is hateful. All speech is not hateful. It depends on which side of the line you choose to stand on. There is never any one right answer to anything.

Another thing that bothered me from the Fallout Central podcast debate with Albert was his blatant disregard for the US Constitution. I made the point that I have not heard JV & Elvis or Rosie O’Donnell and I don’t need to hear them. He said that was like hiding your head in the sand and sitting idly by while the boogeyman is forming from some nebulous fog or a Stephen King novel. Not only should we watch what the boogeyman is doing, but putting a stop to that boogeyman is what this approach is all about. Pro-censorship approach? If it looks like pho noodle soup, and tastes like pho noodle soup, then it must be Pho!

In order to defend JV & Elvis, Rosie, or anyone else I do not need to hear what their speech is. If you have to hear what someone else has to say in order to validate it, then you do not believe in freedom of speech and sadly you do not believe in our country. You actually believe that some speech has more merit than other speech. I believe so much in our country and our Constitution that I do not need to hear what anyone says in order to support their right to say it. I may disagree with the points they are making, but we can all agree to disagree. This is the future folks. Be prepared to bow to your new Asian overlords and have your speech validated by the censors. Welcome to The United States of Asians.

I’ve had a few minutes to stew over the podcast debate with Fallout Central. I really didn’t get to make any hard hitting arguments in that 1 minute final rebuttal so this is my space to say what wasn’t said.

First the fact that the Asian community is getting their own set of Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons being a good thing. WTF? These guys were relevant in the 70′s, but really their time has come to pass the torch on to a new set of civil rights champions that can argue about modern issues. This will be a grim day when the Asian community has the same group of people making us look like a bunch of whiners to the rest of the country.

This new Asian power movement bothers me to the extreme. I had thought that we were above wallowing in some made up sorrow for ourselves and beginning to blame White and Black people for our problems. The problem is in the mirror, not with Whites or Blacks. I have heard the voice of fear mongering tonight and I do not think it is a pretty voice. The guys on Fallout Central seem convinced that something bad is coming. Something like racial oppression targeted at Asians or internment camps from WWII. They see Jeff Vandergrift and Dan Lay as being part of a small group of people that are going to lead us down a slippery slope. I read about how violence against Asians is on the rise, but I don’t see that in Atlanta, “The City Too Busy to Hate”. For some reason the fear and paranoia meter are off the scale with these guys.

What really bothers me is that Albert was convinced that bad things were coming and people like me who ignore it will go running back to them because somehow they will have all the answers. Run back to them; the yellow Jesse Jacksons of the world? I don’t think so. I can protect myself and nobody else has that duty While I hate it that other Asians have suffered from violence I must point out they are at fault for not defending themselves. In the US Supreme Court case DESHANEY v. WINNEBAGO CTY. SOC. SERVS. DEPT it was ruled that a government agency is not liable for not protecting you. This means that the police do not have an obligation to protect you. We know all too well that cops just write reports after you’ve been beaten and robbed. So the only one left to protect you is you. Learn martial arts, carry a knife, get a concealed weapons permit, and learn to shoot. If you want to stop racial violence, muggings, car jackings, etc. just bust a cap in the perpetrator and that will cause all criminals to think twice.

As Neal Boortz has said on his radio show hate crime legislation is thought crime legislation. Just because someone is yelling racial obscenities when they’re beating you does not justify adding 10 years on to their sentence. We already have laws against aggravated assault and strong arm robbery. The end result is the same, you were beaten. The motivation behind the assault doesn’t factor in to that equation, whether robbery or prejudice. Is it a good thing to add on to a prison sentence because of someone’s thoughts? I don’t think so. Today it is racial slurs, but tomorrow pro-choice speech could be considered hate speech because you are ok with the killing of defenseless babies. What if you say something bad about the Westboro Baptist Church and their God Hates Fags campaign? If you’re against Jesus you’re guilty of a hate crime, non-believer! This is a slippery slope that we should be really concerned with, not a couple of shock jocks or Rosie O’ Donnell.

Maybe I am wrong for being critical of Fallout Central. But I do not think sacrificing the Constitution is a good thing to do. That really bothers me, a fracking lot for them to think that all the Asians who didn’t listen to them will come running back and begin groveling for their help. I can see a civil race war coming in this country from all sides. The legal system is going to become bogged down and political correctness will run amok and Asians will be to blame. Is this the legacy we want to leave for the rest of the country? I have seen the face of evil today. It has yellow skin and slanty eyes. I know that when the race war comes I will not be fighting alongside Fallout Central and their special interest groups like The Asian American Justice Center. If being Asian is about towing their party line, then from this moment forward I am White or Latino.

John Edwards has revealed to the world that he is no friend of the constitution. He has come forward and condemned Jeff Vandergrift and Dan Lay (AKA JV & Elvis) of WFNY.

“The recent radio skit of these two hosts was beyond disgusting. As individuals and as a nation, we have to condemn this kind of language—there is just no place for it in our public dialogue.

No, Mr. Edwards, we should condemn you for saying there is no place for this kind of language in our public dialogue. If you object to this, what is next?

That was good clean fun with William and Albert over at Fallout Central.  Lots of good issues were discussed regarding JV & Elvis.  We did maintain that this is a literary issue and that it is up to the advertisers to make the decision.  Albert is of the opinion that the Jessie Jacksification of the Asian-American people is a good thing.  I must respectfully disagree.  We are not an abused race and we do not need to start acting like victims.  I do not see Asians being abused by the media.  Unfortunately I see a Yellow Panthers movement brewing where Albert stated (paraphrasing) Asians are tired of being pushed around and the anger is building.  I don’t see the pushing, but obviously this can’t be good for those of us that don’t want to be lumped in with the whiners.

Albert did mention that the Libertarian live and let live philosophy is the opposite of the PC slippery slope.  Again I must respectfully disagree.  All speech, including hate speech must be protected. I am not ready to throw the Constitution out the window because of fear.  As much as I dislike the Skinheads and Ku Klux Klan I would be in the streets marching for their right to say what they want to say.

The wonderful guys at Fallout Central have decided to call me for a debate on the JV & Elvis Non-Controversy.  I am expecting the call to be published in the Tuesday version of their podcast.