Viet-Justice

Another thing that bothered me from the Fallout Central podcast debate with Albert was his blatant disregard for the US Constitution. I made the point that I have not heard JV & Elvis or Rosie O’Donnell and I don’t need to hear them. He said that was like hiding your head in the sand and sitting idly by while the boogeyman is forming from some nebulous fog or a Stephen King novel. Not only should we watch what the boogeyman is doing, but putting a stop to that boogeyman is what this approach is all about. Pro-censorship approach? If it looks like pho noodle soup, and tastes like pho noodle soup, then it must be Pho!

In order to defend JV & Elvis, Rosie, or anyone else I do not need to hear what their speech is. If you have to hear what someone else has to say in order to validate it, then you do not believe in freedom of speech and sadly you do not believe in our country. You actually believe that some speech has more merit than other speech. I believe so much in our country and our Constitution that I do not need to hear what anyone says in order to support their right to say it. I may disagree with the points they are making, but we can all agree to disagree. This is the future folks. Be prepared to bow to your new Asian overlords and have your speech validated by the censors. Welcome to The United States of Asians.

I’ve had a few minutes to stew over the podcast debate with Fallout Central. I really didn’t get to make any hard hitting arguments in that 1 minute final rebuttal so this is my space to say what wasn’t said.

First the fact that the Asian community is getting their own set of Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons being a good thing. WTF? These guys were relevant in the 70’s, but really their time has come to pass the torch on to a new set of civil rights champions that can argue about modern issues. This will be a grim day when the Asian community has the same group of people making us look like a bunch of whiners to the rest of the country.

This new Asian power movement bothers me to the extreme. I had thought that we were above wallowing in some made up sorrow for ourselves and beginning to blame White and Black people for our problems. The problem is in the mirror, not with Whites or Blacks. I have heard the voice of fear mongering tonight and I do not think it is a pretty voice. The guys on Fallout Central seem convinced that something bad is coming. Something like racial oppression targeted at Asians or internment camps from WWII. They see Jeff Vandergrift and Dan Lay as being part of a small group of people that are going to lead us down a slippery slope. I read about how violence against Asians is on the rise, but I don’t see that in Atlanta, “The City Too Busy to Hate”. For some reason the fear and paranoia meter are off the scale with these guys.

What really bothers me is that Albert was convinced that bad things were coming and people like me who ignore it will go running back to them because somehow they will have all the answers. Run back to them; the yellow Jesse Jacksons of the world? I don’t think so. I can protect myself and nobody else has that duty While I hate it that other Asians have suffered from violence I must point out they are at fault for not defending themselves. In the US Supreme Court case DESHANEY v. WINNEBAGO CTY. SOC. SERVS. DEPT it was ruled that a government agency is not liable for not protecting you. This means that the police do not have an obligation to protect you. We know all too well that cops just write reports after you’ve been beaten and robbed. So the only one left to protect you is you. Learn martial arts, carry a knife, get a concealed weapons permit, and learn to shoot. If you want to stop racial violence, muggings, car jackings, etc. just bust a cap in the perpetrator and that will cause all criminals to think twice.

As Neal Boortz has said on his radio show hate crime legislation is thought crime legislation. Just because someone is yelling racial obscenities when they’re beating you does not justify adding 10 years on to their sentence. We already have laws against aggravated assault and strong arm robbery. The end result is the same, you were beaten. The motivation behind the assault doesn’t factor in to that equation, whether robbery or prejudice. Is it a good thing to add on to a prison sentence because of someone’s thoughts? I don’t think so. Today it is racial slurs, but tomorrow pro-choice speech could be considered hate speech because you are ok with the killing of defenseless babies. What if you say something bad about the Westboro Baptist Church and their God Hates Fags campaign? If you’re against Jesus you’re guilty of a hate crime, non-believer! This is a slippery slope that we should be really concerned with, not a couple of shock jocks or Rosie O’ Donnell.

Maybe I am wrong for being critical of Fallout Central. But I do not think sacrificing the Constitution is a good thing to do. That really bothers me, a fracking lot for them to think that all the Asians who didn’t listen to them will come running back and begin groveling for their help. I can see a civil race war coming in this country from all sides. The legal system is going to become bogged down and political correctness will run amok and Asians will be to blame. Is this the legacy we want to leave for the rest of the country? I have seen the face of evil today. It has yellow skin and slanty eyes. I know that when the race war comes I will not be fighting alongside Fallout Central and their special interest groups like The Asian American Justice Center. If being Asian is about towing their party line, then from this moment forward I am White or Latino.

John Edwards has revealed to the world that he is no friend of the constitution. He has come forward and condemned Jeff Vandergrift and Dan Lay (AKA JV & Elvis) of WFNY.

“The recent radio skit of these two hosts was beyond disgusting. As individuals and as a nation, we have to condemn this kind of language—there is just no place for it in our public dialogue.

No, Mr. Edwards, we should condemn you for saying there is no place for this kind of language in our public dialogue. If you object to this, what is next?

That was good clean fun with William and Albert over at Fallout Central.  Lots of good issues were discussed regarding JV & Elvis.  We did maintain that this is a literary issue and that it is up to the advertisers to make the decision.  Albert is of the opinion that the Jessie Jacksification of the Asian-American people is a good thing.  I must respectfully disagree.  We are not an abused race and we do not need to start acting like victims.  I do not see Asians being abused by the media.  Unfortunately I see a Yellow Panthers movement brewing where Albert stated (paraphrasing) Asians are tired of being pushed around and the anger is building.  I don’t see the pushing, but obviously this can’t be good for those of us that don’t want to be lumped in with the whiners.

Albert did mention that the Libertarian live and let live philosophy is the opposite of the PC slippery slope.  Again I must respectfully disagree.  All speech, including hate speech must be protected. I am not ready to throw the Constitution out the window because of fear.  As much as I dislike the Skinheads and Ku Klux Klan I would be in the streets marching for their right to say what they want to say.

The wonderful guys at Fallout Central have decided to call me for a debate on the JV & Elvis Non-Controversy.  I am expecting the call to be published in the Tuesday version of their podcast.

Since Imus, many people have been acting stupid and I’m not talking about the shock jocks. Aside from Cho Seung-Hiu being stupid there are a lot of dumb Asians out there. “The Dog House With JV and Elvis,”on WFNY caused a major stink when hosts Jeff Vandergrift and Dan Lay punked some Chinese restaurants by calling up and asking for “very large slimp flied lice.” among other things. Well here come the party poopers.

Ben Fong-Torres is the radio critic for the San Francisco Chronicle. He called for JV and Elvis to be fired and added that it wouldn’t be the first time for the duo. “It’s time to continue to send messages. I know it may never work. But this is the society we live in now. The more people get really penalized for doing this kind of stuff — this demeaning, insulting, derogatory, racist kind of material in the guise of humor — the better off we are.”

Even the fools at Fallout Central are getting into the spirit of things. They have asked for people to appear on their podcast to defend JV & Elvis. I have offered to appear and defend their constitutional right to express themselves in whatever way they want.

Subject:
JV & Elvis Non-Controversy
From: Quan Trinh
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:47:13 -0400
To: comments@falloutcentral.com

Greetings,

I’m an Asian-American living in ___________ and I wanted to chime in on
the whole JV & Elvis non-controversy. My family first arrived in
America at the end of the Vietnam war and I absolutely love the freedoms
that we have in this country.

To that end I am a free market capitalist and a believer that the 1st
Amendment is absolute in all aspects. I have only heard the news media
reports of JV & Elvis’ show and some sound clips on the Internet, so I
do not know their entire history; however, I will be the first to rush
to their defense as an American Citizen who believes in freedom of speech.

If you refer back to your 2nd year Literature classes in College out of
many genre, there are two here that come into play, Satire and Sarcasm.
Satire is meant to be witty, but critical. Sarcasm is critical as well,
but less kind and more direct. Both have been used as forms of art
throughout the centuries.
If you take a look at Comedy Central most of the popular shows, such as
Mind of Mencia, South Park, and The Chapelle Show, could be classified
as Sarcasm. We as people tend to like racial stereotypes and insults,
provided it is on Comedy Central. Why limit it to there? What about
FOX network? The early seasons of MadTV had a skit with Ms. Swan, an
Asian woman who owns a nail salon and speaks poor “Engrish”. The MadTV
skits were very funny to me in my younger years because they reminded me
of my mother’s mannerisms.

As for Mr. Vandergrift being married to an Asian woman, I can see him
using that as a valid excuse based on the mixed couples I have
encountered. To cite a case of a Jewish friend, his girlfriend is
always telling Jew jokes. Now this may sound offensive, but she is only
repeating the Jew jokes her boyfriend tells everyone else. Is it less
insulting when a Jew tells a Jew joke? How do we know that Mr.
Vandergrift is not getting material from his wife? Is it wrong for you
to make jokes about your race/heritage and if you do; is there any
expectation that other groups can not or should not repeat said jokes?

Is it wrong when people like fellow Asians like AZN Thugz write songs
such as “Got rice” that are very stereotypical? Or
http://www.gregbender.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/asian.swf

What about their other song “Racing Ain’t a Thang” where they rap about
their street racing rice cars?
http://www.hotlyrics.net/lyrics/A/Asian_Pride/Got_Rice_(part_2).html

America is based on free market capitalism. I do not believe JV & ELvis
should be taken off the air by CBS. If they are so offensive then they
will fall in the ratings and a more popular show will take their place.
If they survive then I believe it is a sign that their brand of Sarcasm
is a viable product in the marketplace and based on simple Darwinism
should be allowed to continue.

I believe that the 1st Amendment is absolute in protecting all speech.
The US Constitution does not exempt certain speech from protection, only
judges since its writing have made exception based on community
standards. I do not support those rulings and I interpret the US
Constitution literally.

I think that Asians, Blacks, Whites, Latinos, etc should lighten up a
bit and be a little less serious. Everyone should grow a thicker skin.
It isn’t a nice world out there and you have no control over what
happens. Shrug it off, ignore it, deal with it, move on.

Hats off to Natasha Yi for defending her husband. First, you always
back the home team no matter what the home team does, or you switch
teams. Second, she knows how to kick back and let the water roll off
her back.

If you are interested in discussing or debating further on your podcast
I can be reached at nnn-nnn-nnnn Sunday evening. I would really be
interested to know if I am in the minority as an Asian American who
thinks you are way out of line. Please respond to this email so I can
block out a couple of hours uninterrupted for the call if you wish to
speak to me. I will be very interested to see if you do call other
Asians to get a counterpoint.